Big lump goldfish opposite side
Big lump goldfish on the opposite side now and it’s large. Over the last 2 weeks I have done:
Back to back garlic in the tank
Mint in the tank
Baths: 2 weeks ago: garlic and salt (2), mint and h2o2, h2o2 and 1 tsp salt, just h2o2 last night, with massages to the lump.
Lump is soft, but has no head. It’s all under the scales. No sign of pine-cone effect.
Started green garlic juice orally last night and she looked much perkier this a.m. Lump has stopped growing.
Goldfish lumps
Salt bathes are risky, and I’m wondering if they’re necessary in this case. If you were able to squeeze the lump during a salt bath, you would probably be able to squeeze the lump during a garlic or H202 bath. The substances in the bath would be used to fight external infection after the squeeze. Garlic would also relax her during the treatment
Didn’t we treat orally with the green juice? How long was the treatment? I would treat her three times a day. Get as much down the gullet as possible with each treatment. Perhaps a green bath as well mixed with mint
Keep the treatment going until the bottle runs dry
I know you’re making your own gel food, but what all is in it? Tof has Life probiotic powder, garlic powder, vitamin C, psyllium and seaweed; a powerful combination for building the immune system. The digestive Health remedy has green juice, garlic juice, aloe and mint. It’s given orally or added to gel food for those that are squeamish
If you get to a point where the lumps won’t subside, let’s consider injecting it with garlic juice; sounds strange, but I think it will work. I think the juice will cause a burn, but better the burn than the abscess
Medicinal antibiotics are too risky; destroying the immune system does more harm than good in the long run. Beneficial bacteria, living in the water or the body take 12 to 20 hours to reproduce, whereas bad bacteria divide every 12 to 20 minutes. The only reason good bugs are able to take over a territory is because bad bugs are destroyed by the good upon contact. Still, once the good bugs are wiped out, rebuilding the colony is difficult
Remember when you had a spike in the cycle? It took a great deal of time to complete the cycle. It was a constant battle with that sludge slime you found growing in the tank, and the bacteria bloom too
I wonder if we might be seeing the results of those issues in the fish now?
Here’s a very interesting article on the topic of abscesses. After you read, let’s discuss
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Abscess/Pages/Causes.aspx
Here’s one of my articles on antibiotics
https://goldfish-emergency.com/best-goldfish-medication/
Fannie has another large abscess, but this one came to a head and burst w within 24 hours. Gave her a 1 T/gal salt bath x 4 mins and squeezed it gently. Now it’s a little flatter. Can I give the salt bath at this strength for a few days in a row?
That’s surprising, but great to hear. Imagine a big thumb’s up right here
They are still getting gel food with prebiotics daily to rebuild their immune systems.
Happy to report that both Fannie and Io have been back in the main tank for weeks now with no further sign of infection! Both doing well and will soon be 7 years old. I don’t like antibiotics, but am so glad they worked in this instance. For my own memory I want to record that they both got 1 dose of Metroplex and 3 doses of Kanaplex over a 5 day treatment period, 6 days for Io, who was shower to respond. Having them each in the treatment tub, one after the other, meant two weeks of 3 hour WCs for me, but the results are worth it!
The testers we buy at the pet shops are cheaply made, even the better brands. KH reads 20 to 40 ppm lower than the actual measurement, so I would say your levels were at 140 to 160 ppm. Even though this is considered a little high, it’s not high enough to endanger the fish. KH burns fish, leaving the same white marks that ammonia does
You may notice the dorsal fin pulled tight to the body
Just like ammonia, KH burns cause the gills to swell, keeping fish from getting the oxygen they need. The gills typically redden when this happens. As for other symptoms, I don’t know of any
Fannie has been back in the main tank for maybe 5 days and is doing very well. All symptoms gone for now and tons of energy. It’s good to see. My first Dropsy success. Io is now in the QT tub, really swollen on the left. I’m doing tonics in both tanks. Dandelion currently. And, it’s, antibiotics for Io. Same symptoms Fannie had.
I’ve been rereading your last post and remembered there were some peas a while back that were kind of slimy when I got them out to feed. I dumped them, but had fed them the day before, so who knows. Now I’m making tiny batches s so they only last three days.
The only other thing I can think of is that KH was 180 for a couple of days before Fannie started showing symptoms. But I don’t know that that would cause these symptoms.
It’s possible there’s an issue with the pipes in your home. By the time city water reaches your house, the chloramines added may be too weak to kill off whatever, still, unlikely. Most bad bugs make their presence known by clouding the water, slime on surfaces and so forth; not all however
I’m not sure how a fish would react to food poisoning; peas or gelatin that stayed int he fridge a little too long. I’ve pushed it in the past, and the fact is, some food comes to us contaminated
The lucky bamboo could be leaching some unknown substance, causing some internal damage that has caused infection. Some plants are toxic, but I would imagine you checked before adding them to the aquarium?
You can bet the similar symptoms in the two fish are related. I mean, what are the odds?
I might be tempted to take a sample of your tap in for testing. We could rule that out anyway
Peas, garlic peas, gel food. Peas twice daily, gel food twice daily. Besides holding some waste in its roots, the bamboo has been firm and healthy. I’ve had problems with infection in my tank from the get go, long before the bamboo went in or the algae scrubber. I make sure their food is fresh, making small batches. I guess I should have my water tested for bacteria. I mentioned it to hubby recently and he said he’s read the reports and it’s fine. I read the last report that came in the mail and there was nothing outstanding. Still, something is going on.
If not food or water, the bamboo?
Something wrong with the food or water. What do you normally feed?